Advanced topics

Discussion of the rendering mechanism

We render some files from a templates directory, using a script render.py based the Python jinja2 framework, applying variables from a lab.yml configuration file, into a target directory, by default rendered/lab.

The name of the config file can be overridden with the -v flag of the render.py script. This changes the (default) output directory into rendered/<basename-of-the-lab-yml-file>.

We apply defaults from a lab.default.yml file before reading the main config file.

In the templates directory, any _startup.*.j2 files are "executed" in order (technically: prepended to each individual template contents) which allows for further conditional variable initialization or any further jinja2 script code which doesn't fit into the constraints of a (pure YAML) lab.yml config file.

In this fashion, every .j2 ending template file is rendered into a target file in the output directory with the same filename without the .j2 ending.

A special case are files ending in .generic_script.j2. These are cross-platform source files rendered to platform-specific scripts (Bash, Powershell). By default we render Bash; on Windows platforms, we render Powershell. This can be controlled via the render_{sh|ps1} configuration variables (see below).

As a solution to consistently render randomly-generated passwords into the target files, we have added a mechanism which creates and updates a local password storage on the fly. It behaves that if a password (identified by a label) has not been generated yet, it will be randomly generated, and on subsequent occurrences of the same password (by the same label), we will re-use the previously randomly generated password. For more details, see render.py script source.

Concluding remark: the render.py script and surrounding construction does not claim to showcase best-practices configuration management for k8s. It is meant as a low-effort vehicle with no value by itself (and shall not be subject of study itself), rather, its generated output files are meant as educational vehicle to demonstrate how to setup labs based on our company's official deliveries (core product helm charts and container images).

Discussion of the rendered files

  • install.{sh,ps1} aims to be a human-readable document which shows how the individual components (batteries and App Suite itself) are to be installed.
  • The main installation of App Suite itself is one helm install invocation on the so-called "Stack Chart" (the default vanilla chart currently lives at oci://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite/charts/appsuite)
  • The stack chart installation is invoked with two values files: values.yaml carrying the entire App Suite configuration including sizing, replication factors, feature set, etc., and values.secret.yaml carrying all secrets. Technically this separation does not matter here for the helm install behavior, but allows for different treatment of the files (unencrypted git commit vs special treatment of sensitive data). These files carry the
  • There is also an uninstall script uninstall.{sh,ps1} to allow for quick and easy redeployment cycles.

About the install / uninstall scripts

The scripts feature so-called "light" and "medium" run modes.

"Light" mode is intended to only (un)install App Suite while keeping the batteries and their data intact.

"Medium" mode is intended to (un)install App Suite and the batteries, while still keeping their data (PersistentVolumes) intact.

By default, the Persistent Volumes and the application namespace and its secrets (pull secrets, TLS secrets) are preserved. If you want to cleanup this as well, the uninstall script has got command line options for this as well.

Customizing the installation

Start by creating a copy of the default lab.yml file to a file of your own, like lab.mine.yml. Edit this file to reflect your configuration choices.

It is not recommended to edit lab.default.yml or lab.yml as these are under revision control and will conflict your updates on git pull.

Some of the possible settings are documented in lab.default.yml. For some of the more esoteric settings, we skipped that. Reading the jinja template sources is then your best source of information.

Render the files. The render.py will by default render into a dedicated output directory based on the basename of your config file, e.g. lab.mine.yml -> rendered/lab.mine.

A -V switch is available to give more diagnostics on output (in particular, output the changes to the rendered files), and generally recommended to use.

% cp lab.yml lab.mine.yml
% vim lab.mine.yml
% v/bin/python render.py -V -v lab.mine.yml
% cd rendered/lab.mine
% ./install.sh # or install.ps1

Discussing typical customization use cases

Following a collection of typical use cases with the respective settings in the lab.yml file.

Configure which chart is installed

Non-customized charts

By default, we use the appsuite/charts/appsuite stack chart to create a lab based on the vanilla (non-customized) Open Source release of App Suite 8. This version is released publicly, i.e. without requiring pull credentials. If unsure, use this one.

There is also the appsuite-pro/charts/appsuite-pro stack chart which contains proprietary components. Pulling this chart (and the images referenced therein) requires authentication (see below).

To use the open source stack chart, you don't need to configure anything, the default config as per lab.default.yml applies:

as_chart: oci://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite/charts/appsuite

To use the appsuite-pro stack chart, you need to configure the location, and add a pull secret:

as_chart: oci://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite-pro/charts/appsuite-pro
as_pullsecret: <your-pullsecret>

The pull secret needs to be created by you before running the installation script for example with:

kubectl create secret docker-registry -n as8 as8-pullsecret --docker-server=registry.open-xchange.com --docker-username=... --docker-password=...

The corresponding credentials are communicated to you via your OX sales or services representative.

Customized charts

There are also customized versions of the charts, either released publicly, like appsuite-public-sector/charts/appsuite-public-sector, or private charts like appsuite-<customername>/charts/appsuite-<customername>, the latter requiring pull credentials again. Refer to the release notes of your custom release for the exact chart name.

The customized charts are technically implemented as meta chart, containing one of the non-customized stack charts as sub chart, next to sub charts implementing the customizations.

This has the effect that the rendered values.yaml file needs to be structured differently (having the settings of the stack chart nested under a top-level entry like appsuite or appsuite-pro). It is configured via the rendering mechanism via

as_chart: oci://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite-public-sector/charts/appsuite-public-sector
use_nested_chart: true

By default, the name of the sub chart stack chart is appsuite, which is the correct value for e.g. the public sector release, while most custom releases are based on the appsuite-pro chart, which can be configured as follows:

as_chart: oci://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite-<customer-name>/charts/appsuite-<customer-name>
use_nested_chart: true
nested_chart_anchor: appsuite-pro

Again, for accessing custom releases, a pull secret is required, see above.

App Suite Version

Or, technically, the version of the chart to install.

This, again, is configured by default in lab.default.yml.

as_version: 8.20.405

As usual, you can override this in your lab.yml file.

The key question is then how to identify available versions. For technical reasons we can't provide webui access to our registry (which is based on harbor), but APIs are available, and you can use the following tools to conveniently access the APIs.

Skopeo

skopeo is a command line utility that performs various operations on container images and image repositories." https://github.com/containers/skopeo

Not mentioned as a primary usecase, you can browse chart versions as well with skopeo.

% skopeo list-tags docker://registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite/charts/appsuite
{
    "Repository": "registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite/charts/appsuite",
    "Tags": [
        "8.19.369",
        "8.19.372",
        "8.19.373",
        "8.19.374",
        "8.19.375",
        "8.19.376",
        "8.19.377",
        "8.19.378",
        "8.19.379",
        "8.19.380",
        "8.20.398",
        "8.20.403",
        "8.20.404",
        "8.20.405"
    ]
}

harbortour

We created a small Golang tool to use the Harbor API to list available repositories and artifacts. We call it harbortour and for now it lives in this repo as a "battery". Thus, you find the source in batteries/harbortour/image/harbortour.

It's Golang, so you can get Golang on your dev machine, build harbortour from source, and run it:

% cd batteries/harbortour/image/harbortour 
% go build 
% ./harbortour 
appsuite/appsuite-toolkit
appsuite/cacheservice
[...]

We also build and release it as container image. Thus, you can also invoke it directly as a container with podman run or kubectl run or anything like that. (I experience in testing that kubectl run truncates the output, so running via podman or actually just as a locally built binary is recommended. Feedback appreciated on this one.)

% podman run --rm registry.open-xchange.com/appsuite-operation-guides/harbortour:latest
appsuite/appsuite-toolkit
appsuite/cacheservice
[...]

The tool supports a few command line args:

% ./harbortour -h
Usage of ./harbortour:
  -authorization string
        Authorization String (base64(username:password))
  -endpoint string
        API Endpoint (default "https://registry.open-xchange.com")
  -repository string
        List artifacts for repository

So, to list private repositories, you can supply credentials via the -authorization parameter in the usual format of the base64-encoded <username>:<password> string.

To list the versions of a repository, use the -repository parameter:

% ./harbortour -repository appsuite/charts/appsuite
appsuite/charts/appsuite sha256:39178e167c41069ce5764eb4348a0e2ac19df3621979f0811563aa071c0f3ece 8.20.405 2024-01-19T09:12:42.939Z
appsuite/charts/appsuite sha256:821f92849214f2d066f20fe5111a11948920f28c8f5b0a10ecc43db594607438 8.19.380 2024-01-19T09:12:32.097Z
[...]

Output format is (currently) a list of artifacts with some metadata (including sha256 hash, tag, and push timestamp) per line. The tag is the "version" you're looking for.

In this mode, the tool outputs the same information as skopeo (shown above), less performantly (because the harbor API requires is to look it up in a two-step process with one call per artifact, thus requiring many roundtrips), but working via the harbor API, keeping the tool a "single API client" one.

Further usecases for quering the harbor API via harbortour might be added later.

Batteries usage

You can chose to use our included batteries (for databases, storage, etc), or to connect App Suite with existing services for the respective purpose.

The recommended strategy is deploy the lab first with full "batteries included" and subsequently replace these batteries with their real counterpart services, if desired.

Note that running without functional IMAP endpoint was possible in earlier versions of App Suite, but as of recently, the UI will not load without successful IMAP connection. This means disabling the Dovecot CE battery (without replacing it with a proper external service) will render your lab unusable.

As of version 8.20, Redis is mandatory for some as8 components. It is recommended to use high available Redis sentinel clusters. This can be configured with the configuration variables with redis in their name; see lab.yml, lab.default.yml for documentation comments.

Furthermore, for consistent user configuration across App Suite and Dovecot, we recommend to use LDAP as well. To have the most minimal labs, we also have a modus to run without LDAP, where App Suite and Dovecot are configured with consistent, but autonomous user databases (in App Suite's DB, and in Dovecot files). But, this is really an anti pattern for any "prod like" installation and some features are not available in this setup, so you're encouraged to configure your lab to install install_slapd: true and use_ldap: true.

If you want to enable Keycloak on top, you can enable it with the settings install_keycloak and use_oidc.

HTTPS routing, TLS termination, certificates

In contrast to earlier (version 7) lab setups of App Suite, it is no longer possible to run without TLS. TLS is required for various reasons (HTTP2, brotli) and, as a consequence, (valid) certificates and DNS names are required.

This lab automation supports two different flavors of managing incoming traffic:

  • If your k8s supports LoadBalancer service types, we can use these
  • Otherwise, we can use the NodePort service type with static nodePort values.

The corresponding lab.yml setting is istio_service_type: LoadBalancer|NodePort. This setting will seed defaults for the Keycloak service type as well.

The "static node ports" solution is often used in conjunction with an external load balancer (e.g. HAproxy) which exposes the endpoints on public IPs (usually k8s nodes have only internal network access) and well-known port numbers. Configuring such a HAproxy instance is out scope of this repo.

For TLS termination, we have the options:

  • We can configure TLS termination on application level (App Suite, if applicable: Keycloak).
  • We can configure the apps to run on plain HTTP and expect TLS termination to happen on an external load balancer

The corresponding lab.yml setting is tls_termination_in_apps: true|false

For certificates, there are multiple options.

  • We can use certificates which have been created externally. These are to be provided to our automation via one or more k8s secret(s)
  • We can use an existing cert-manager installation on the provided k8s and use it to create certificates
  • We can install cert-manager on the provided k8s, bootstrap a self-signed ca and use it to create certificates

The corresponding lab.yml settings are certmanager_create_certificates, certmanager_use_embedded_issuer, certmanager_external_issuer_name, certmanager_external_issuer_kind.

Another degree of freedom is to create / use

  • One dedicated cert per application, or
  • A multi-san (or wildcard) cert for all applications (or on the load balancer)

The cert-manager based variants will by default create per-application certs if TLS termination is supposed to happen on application level, and if the external load balancer is to be used, it will create a multi-SAN certificate for it. This can be overridden with the lab.yml variables certmanager_create_application_certs and certmanager_create_multisan_cert.

Script render targets

By default, we render Powershell scripts on Windows platforms, and Bash everywhere else.

To adjust that (or override autodetection failures), the you can define variables your lab.yml:

#render_sh: true
#render_ps1: false

Low-level discussion of the configuration values

Some settings have been discussed above. We don't repeat them here.

We discuss some important settings in the following. More optional overrides or default settings can be found in the lab.default.yml file and the templates/_startup.*.j2 files. The files are documented and expected to be self-explanatory.

Basic settings

  • as_hostname: DNS name to access the App Suite 8 WebUI after installation. Will also propagate (if applicable) into the Keycloak hostname by using the same "domain" with a keycloak hostname (unless the keycloak_hostname is configured explicitly). Example value: as8.lab.test
  • as_hostname_dc: LDAP dc= style writing of the previous setting. Example value: dc=as8,dc=lab,dc=test
  • release: Release name (ash in, helm install <release-name> <chart>) for the App Suite Stack Chart. Example value: as8
  • namespace: Namespace for the App Suite 8 release, and the batteries. (Exceptions: Some batteries also install stuff into their own namespaces, system namespaces, or un-namespaced resources.)
  • istio_service_type: This corresponds to the decision about "HTTPS routing, TLS termination, certificates". This value will propagate for Keycloak and other services if not provided explicitly for those as well. Example values: NodePort or LoadBalancer
  • batteries_disable_storage: You need to configure this if your k8s does not feature storage volumes via a StorageClass. When configured, we will simply not mount volumes (which we usually do where it makes sense), which will have several bad implications, in particular data being lost on pod restarts, and bad performance. However, if your k8s does not feature storage, but you want to do first experiments with as8, this might be your only choice. Just be sure to understand that this never will be a reasonable choice for anything but the most basic trivial first labs. Example value: true (defaults to false)

k8s extensions: Istio, cert-manager

  • install_istio: Well, we need Istio. But maybe your k8s already has it installed, so we should not try to re-install it. Example value: true

For the cert-manager settings: See the decision above about "HTTPS routing, TLS termination, certificates".

  • install_certmanager: If we should install cert-manager. You don't need to install if you want to use an existing, or if you don't want to use any cert-manager at all (because you want to provide externally created certs). Example value: true
  • install_certmanager_selfsigned_ca: If we should install a self-signed CA (certificate authority). You don't need this if you want to use an existing cert-manager issuer (there are settings to configure that, see lab.default.yml. References: certmanager_use_embedded_issuer, certmanager_external_issuer_name, certmanager_external_issuer_kind.). Example value: true
  • certmanager_create_certificates: If you want to use externally created certs, you can set this to false and provide the certs via tls secrets. Secret names are then to be provided via the <label>-_certificate_name settings, see lab.default.yml. Example value: true
  • mysql_host: Hostname of the database used by the middleware pods to access it. When not using our battery, this is the place to put the hostname of the external DB service. Note: we currently don't support in this automation multiple DB instances and/or ConfigDB/UserDB separation; we put it all on one single DB service for simplicity. Example value: mariadb
  • install_mariadb: If you don't want to install the mariadb battery because you want to use an external database, this is the place to disable it. Example value: true
  • use_redis, use_internal_redis, install_spotahome_redis_operator, install_spotahome_redis, install_bitnami_redis: It was only valid to run without redis in very early released versions of as8 (or, even earlier unreleased versions). As of 8.20, use_redis needs to be set to true. The recommended way to have Redis is a sentinel cluster which offers high availability.
    • For labs / the simplest setup possible, you can however use a standalone Redis instance which is deployed by the core-mw chart. You can enable this via the lab.yml setting use_internal_redis. In that case, make sure the other install_redis_* options are set false, even if the defaults are true.
    • As of time of writing this, the officially supported / recommeded method of installing redis is the Spotahome Redis operator. https://documentation.open-xchange.com/8.22/middleware/login_and_sessions/redis_session_storage/01_operator_guide.html Note that this is subject to change, as the Spotahome Redis Operator project seems to be stale. We expect to change the recommendation to the Bitnami Redis Chart, see next bullet points. For the time being, you should use the Spotahome Redis operator, however. Set the install_spotahome_redis_operator, install_spotahome_redis settings to true value to have as8-deployment do the installation of the operator and the Redis cluster itself.
    • To use the Bitnami Redis Chart, use the setting install_bitnami_redis: true.
    • Finally, if you want to connect to some external Redis, use the redis_host setting to override the hostname for your Redis instance (cluster). Set the various install_redis_* settings to false in that case.
  • install_minio: Like install_mariadb, but about minio. Example value: true
  • install_slapd: Like install_mariadb, but about slapd (the LDAP server). Example value: true
  • use_ldap: If you want to use LDAP. Independent from the install_slapd setting because you might want to use an external LDAP service. Example value: true
  • install_keycloak: Like install_mariadb, but about Keycloak. Example value: true
  • use_oidc: Like use_ldap, but for OIDC. Example value: true
  • install_dovecot: Like install_mariadb, but about Dovecot CE. Example value: true
  • install_postfix: Like install_mariadb, but about Postfix. Example value: true

Accessing the Web Application

Some basic discussion which was omitted in the basic documentation is appropriate here.

We require the entire web application to run on host names (rather than just IPs) for two reasons:

  • HTTP routing happens based on the Host: headers sent by the clients. In load balancers, but also in our Istio setup, HTTP requests must match by the Host: header and by the path to be routed to the correct next hop
  • TLS is required by now (since as8); in contrast to earlier versions it's technologically no longer possible to run in plain HTTP without TLS. This is because certain technologies we employ (http2, brotli, potentially others) are only defined to work ontop of TLS connections, and, for example, browsers will refuse to accept brotli-encoded data if transported over plain (non-TLS) HTTP. So even if you assess that for security / privacy reasons your internal lab doesn't need TLS and is fine if running over non-encrypted communication, technically it doesn't work.
  • Canonically you use TLS with hostnames.

Scenario NodePort without external load balancer

For the case without Keycloak, this is discussed in the main README.md file.

The extension to Keycloak is straightforward. Keycloak will also listen on a node port. The port number is configured statically via lab.default.yml and can be read from the kubectl get service -n as8 output:

kubectl get service -n as8
NAME                             TYPE        CLUSTER-IP      EXTERNAL-IP   PORT(S)                                      AGE
[...]
istio-ingressgateway             NodePort    10.233.32.71    <none>        15021:30021/TCP,80:30080/TCP,443:30443/TCP   99s
keycloak                         NodePort    10.233.11.99    <none>        80:31537/TCP,443:30614/TCP                   3m53s
[...]

You'll need an additional hostname for the k8s node IP address in your hosts file:

10.50.2.89 as8.lab.test keycloak.lab.test

On accessing the https://as8.lab.test:30443/appsuite/ URL, App Suite will initiate the OIDC flow to the proper Keycloak URL https://keycloak.lab.test:30614/appsuite/. The redirect back is currently broken (fixes welcome), redirects to https://as8.lab.test/appsuite/ (the port gets lost). Login can still succeed by adding the :30443 port to the URL and use the reload browser button.

Note that configuration of this setup is based on the default value tls_termination_in_apps: false, which has the effects that the "apps" (App Suite, Keycloak) are provided with TLS certs and configured to listen on HTTPS.

Scenario NodePort with external load balancer

The principles about DNS (or /etc/hosts) names (required for TLS cert verification and proper HTTP routing) apply as before. This time, however, the names need to point to the load balancer. The load balancer then uses IPs (or locally resolvable host names) to connect to the k8s node's node ports.

This setup is typically used with TLS termination on the load balancer, and the "apps" (App Suite, Keycloak) are configured to expose plain HTTP. The load balancer forwards / reverse-proxies the traffic to the node ports of the applications on the k8s nodes. The apps are still configured to and expect TLS to be in place from point of view of the clients (browser, etc), but TLS termination happens "somewhere" in front of the apps (here, on our load balancer).

We offer a sample configuration and very basic sample installation automation for creating such a load balancer based on the Envoy Service Proxy https://www.envoyproxy.io/, a CNCF graduated project created for exactly such use cases. Please note that this sample installation automation is very basic and does not meet best practices in terms of "declarative idempotent configuration automation", because this is also from the tooling point of view out of scope of this repo. It is only intended to create a working installation under certain "most commonly used" circumstances, and to show how it works in principle, even if you need to create an adjusted configuration based on our examples.

The envoy configuration is parametrized as followed:

  • install_envoy: true toggles the corresponding sections in the install.{sh,ps1} script and the rendering of the envoy.yaml configuration file
  • tls_termination_in_apps: false configures App Suite and Keycloak to offer plain-HTTP endpoints while being configured to expect and rely on external TLS termination
  • envoy_ssh_target: "debian@172.24.2.2" configures the SSH endpoint to install envoy to. In realistic setups this will be a dedicated machine accesible from "the internet" and connecting to "inner networks", while in simple minimal 1-machine labs, you can even install envoy on your (single) kubelet node (there are usually no port conflicts).
  • envoy_kubelet_address: 172.24.2.2 Our sample envoy configuration only uses one upstreawm endpoint per app (App Suite, Keycloak) (in general, you can / will have multiple, not currently exposed in our rendering parametrization). The endpoints for App Suite and Keycloak can be given separateley, e.g. to point to an external Keycloak (search in the repo's code for lines matching envoy_). By default we assume that App Suite and Keycloak run in our k8s, installed by our render.py based tooling, and are to connected to via the IP address of the kubelet node. The kubelet address needs to be configured here; there is no reliable way to guess it e.g. from kubectl get node, because that can return IP addresses and hostnames, possibly not routable / not resolving; it needs to be specified. The respective ports can be specified as well and default to the node ports we configure.

From the end user (test user) point of view, login then goes towards the https://as8.lab.test/appsuite/ address (no custom port specification necessary, assuming your load balancer runs on the standard port 443) and if Keycloak is configured, the redirects go to https://keycloak.lab.test/appsuite/ and back to https://as8.lab.test/appsuite/.

Scenario LoadBalancer

Let's look at a sample kubectl get service -n as8 output:

NAME                             TYPE           CLUSTER-IP      EXTERNAL-IP    PORT(S)                                      AGE
[...]
istio-ingressgateway             LoadBalancer   10.233.11.136   172.17.6.203   15021:31983/TCP,80:31211/TCP,443:30076/TCP   38m
keycloak                         LoadBalancer   10.233.40.156   172.17.6.202   80:31647/TCP,443:30556/TCP                   40m
[...]

Again, like before, you need working DNS (or /etc/hosts) names for the IPs (listed in the EXTERNAL-IP column).

Like in the NodePort with external load balancer scenario, login then goes towards the https://as8.lab.test/appsuite/ address and if Keycloak is configured, the redirects go to https://keycloak.lab.test/appsuite/ and back to https://as8.lab.test/appsuite/.

Comparison with the legacy App Suite 7 installation procedure

Cf https://oxpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=AppSuite:Open-Xchange_Installation_Guide_for_Debian_11.0

  • Database installationopen in new window We do this during installing the "batteries" in the install.{sh|ps1} script. We have more such steps for minio, LDAP, Keycloak though, as the scope of our lab is extended compared to the App Suite 7 single-node box scope of the App Suite 7 quickinstall guide.
  • JRE Installationopen in new window Does not need attention here. We ship images with the correct JDKs.
  • Add Open-Xchange Repositoryopen in new window could be compared to configure access (credentials) to our helm and image registry https://registry.open-xchange.com/ .
  • Updating repositories and install packagesopen in new window
    • In the k8s world, installation and configuration of the software happens in the combined helm install step. The legacy guide uses a oxinstaller tool which was a shell script to render some settings into some /opt/open-xchange/etc config files. While App Suite 8 (as of the time of writing) still uses such configuration files (a mechanism to replace this is currently under development), we no longer use this tool explicitly, but replaced it by a sophisticated mechanism to render helm values.yaml settings into configuration files.
    • Furthermore, this section contains (without explicit caption) also initialization steps (initconfigdb, registerserver, registerfilestore, registerdatabase) which happen in the k8s world before (initconfigdb) or after (register*) the helm chart installation, by a slightly different tooling (initconfigdb is (currently) invoked by a makeshift kubectl run construct, while the register* calls are actually happening via SOAP from a Python/Zeep script).
  • Configure servicesopen in new window The legacy guide refers to Apache configuration. In the k8s world, we replace Apache as HTTP routing tool by Istio. Istio configuration happens during the helm install step.
  • Creating contexts and usersopen in new window No longer considered as part of the installation itself, but rather as something supposed to happen after installation. However, we still ship some provisioning tooling for this step as part of this repo to make it easy and convenient to get some test users (and contexts) out of the automation. This happens naturally at the very end of the procedure, in our case as well via SOAP using some Python/Zeep script.
  • Log files and issue trackingopen in new window Not exactly an installation step, but worth mentioning that in the first place logging happens in the usual k8s ways (means, structured logging to stdout) and can be accessed via the usual tooling (kubectl logs). Further integration into modern logging aggregating and analysis frameworks is currently in the domain of the on-premises customer.